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Post by azz » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:08 pm

a. Any talk about politics is not allowed at this office.

Is the above sentence grammatically correct?

I think it's not correct. It seems to me that it should be
b. No talk about politics is allowed at his office.
or
c. Any talk about politics is disallowed at this office.

How about

b. Anyone under sixteen is not allowed inside the room.
?

Many thanks.
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Re: anyone

Post by Bobinwales » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:23 am

Political discussion is not allowed at this office.

"Anyone under sixteen is not allowed inside the room".
It is not easy to understand what you are getting at.
Do you mean...
"Only people over sixteen are allowed in the room"?
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Re: anyone

Post by azz » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:21 am

Thank you so much Bob.

Yes. I just want to see whether 'any' can be used with a negative verb in that way. But the meaning is the same as that of your sentence.

Many thanks.
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Re: anyone

Post by Phil White » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:14 pm

As a rule, if you want to negate an "any" construction, you negate the "any" and not the associated verb.

"Not any" = "No", hence "no political discussion is allowed...".

"Not anyone" = "No-one" , hence "no one under sixteen is allowed ...".

There are, of course, exceptions.

"Anyone who eats junk food is not going to lose weight."

But such a sentence presupposes that we are talking about "losing weight", and this is the most important part of the sentence to negate.

This means that your sentence b might be possible in the right context: "Only adults are allowed inside the room. Anyone under sixteen is not allowed in."

Having said that, I find that such constructions work better with future verb forms: "Anyone under sixteen will not be allowed ...".

As I say, the normal way of negating an "any" construction is to actually negate the "any". To retain the "any" and negate the verb requires a considerable amount of native intuition.
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