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Post by navi » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:00 am

1) Great novelists such as Joyce and Faulkner used the interior monologue.
2) Great novelists like Joyce and Faulkner used the interior monologue.


3) Great novelists, such as Joyce and Faulkner, used the interior monologue.
4) Great novelists, like Joyce and Faulkner, used the interior monologue.

Do the first pair mean the same as the second pair?

Gratefully,
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Post by Phil White » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:59 pm

It's exactly the same distinction as with the defining / non-defining relative clause. If you use the commas, the "such as Joyce and Faulkner" is parenthetical. Otherwise it is restrictive.

With the commas: All great novelists use the interior monologue. Joyce and Faulkner are examples of great novelists.
Without the commas: Great novelists who write like Joyce and Faulkner (are of the same school/period/etc.) use the interior monologue. Other great novelists may not do so.

If you get this wrong again, you will have to read Molly Bloom's monologue as a punishment.
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Re: such as

Post by navi » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:18 am

Thank you very much, Phil,

Sinners have to be punished, don't they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c_z3apI9ng

Respectfully,
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