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Re: Authoress

Post by Bobinwales » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:59 pm

Shelley wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:53 pm
I dunno, Bob, some bigoted snipers have accused them of having no sense of humor at all!
I dunno either, even though my daughter is married to a lady.
Signature: All those years gone to waist!
Bob in Wales

Re: Authoress

Post by Shelley » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:09 pm

Bob, glad to hear they are still together. It's not easy to stay married -- my husband and I celebrated our 30th recently and are pretty proud of ourselves!

ANYWAAAY -- again with the deja vu feeling, I dredged up some prior discussions=http://www.wordwizard ... orrectness on nonsexist language. (Sorry, you'll have to tolerate my mess, 'cause I haven't re-learned how to make a link, yet.) They are over a decade old, and yet the same arguments are put forward today. Have we moved an inch? Hard to say, but the discussions are fun to read in a nostalgic sort of way. Over time, my views on the topic of the feminization of occupation titles haven't changed much, but I'm more inclined to roll my eyes instead of resort to blows over it. Because I'm older, I don't care as much whether people like me, and if they insult me I just disconnect them (I'm a receptionist). Why oh why do we keep having to fight the same fights over and over again? (Of course, I employ the Royal "We". :wink: )

The fact that there was a specific exchange in 2007 between gdwdwrkr and me about the very word "authoress" made me wonder if trolley brought this up just to bait me/us. "Maybe it was before his time," I thought, but nope, trolley's there. Trolley, don't you think context resolves a lot of ambiguity where gender isn't explicitly stated? I do. It's true that sometimes I have to think about it, but that doesn't hurt - yet.

Interestingly, I just read an elevator news-bite about a woman of note, described as "writer, producer, director": as I read, I thought how funny-weird it would have looked with "authoress, produceress, directrix" . . . So, I guess, somehow, we have moved an inch. At least we've saved a column inch or two in type-setting.

And yes, tony h, in my peripheral experience with television production, all actors, anchors, speakers, etc. are referred to as "Talent".

And Erik, I would take "Murderess!" as a very derogatory epithet indeed, unless, of course, I did it.

Cheers all!
Signed, Wordbitch

P.S. Aw, hell -- the link doesn't work at all. So, the discussion titles are "Gender: political correctness" and "nonsexist language". Sorry folks, I'll get it right next time.

Re: Authoress

Post by gdwdwrkr » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:43 pm

Thanks for the back-references.
History - it's all new again!

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