To be determined to

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To be determined to

Post by Stevenloan » Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:53 am

Hi guys! Is there an idiom or a fixed phrase to express "when I am determined to get something successfully"?

Thanks a lot!

StevenLoan
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Post by Erik_Kowal » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:35 pm

There are quite a few I can think of:

To go all out [for something]
To go full-bore
To go for it
("He saw his chance, and he went for it")
To be {hell-bent / dead set} on
[object or doing something] ("He was hell-bent on being the first in line")

No doubt other contributors to this site will be able to add some to the list.
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Post by BonnieL » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:11 am

Erik_Kowal wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:35 pm
To be {hell-bent / dead set} on [/i][object or doing something] ("He was hell-bent on being the first in line")[/in]
My mother's version of this was "hell bent for leather." Since I never understood it, I didn't pick it up. :)
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Post by Erik_Kowal » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:10 am

I've hear that too in the States, Bonnie, and I had the same reaction as you. :)
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Post by trolley » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:35 pm

From what I can gather, "hell bent" is an Americanism meaning "determined to do something, and to hell with the consequences." Hell bent for leather may be a combination of "hell bent" and "hell for leather". One source says "hell for leather" is a British expression coined by Rudyard Kipling and means recklessly fast (as if riding a horse) and the leather refers to the saddle or the reins. Other sources claim it is an American expression and describes something so arduous or time-consuming that you could actually wear out (leather) shoes trying to accomplish it. Another theory is that "hell bent for leather" is not a combination of those phrases but rather, a cowboy expression. If an animal (cow, horse, pig) became too troublesome to handle they might be slaughtered. They were said to be "hell bent for leather"...working towards being turned into a wallet or a pair of boots. That one sounds a little fishy. I also found hell bent for breakfast. Seriously, how hungry would you have to be?
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Post by Stevenloan » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:24 pm

Erik, BonnieL and trolley: Thank you all so so much for the phrases. I really appreciate it.
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Post by Phil White » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:38 pm

As far as "hell bent for leather" is concerned, the mighty Ken had a good go at that one a few years back, and there are some even older discussions on the board if you search for them.
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Post by BonnieL » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:16 pm

The link to the Word Detective reminded me - does anyone know how Even Morris is doing? Is he still alive? I sent a note by snail mail in January & didn't hear back.

I'm still reading his archives & enjoying them very much.
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Post by Phil White » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:51 pm

BonnieL wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:16 pm
The link to the Word Detective reminded me - does anyone know how Even Morris is doing? Is he still alive? I sent a note by snail mail in January & didn't hear back.

I'm still reading his archives & enjoying them very much.
There has been no activity on his blog or on Twitter since Spring last year, when he talked about his many health issues. Beyond that, I don't know anything.
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