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more books than you've seen

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:10 pm
by navi
1) I've read more books than you've seen in my library.

2) I've read more books than you own in your library.

I think in '1' the assumption would be that I have read all the books in my library and then some; and in '2' the assumption would be that there is probably overlap between the set of the books I've read and the set of books in your library.

Is that correct?

Those assumptions are not necessary though, are they?
Maybe the number of books I've read is greater than the number of books in my library, but I have not read a single book that is in my library.

And maybe '2' is supposed to mean I have read all of the books in your library and then some.

Is that correct?

Gratefully,
Navi.

Re: more books than you've seen

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:53 am
by trolley
"I think in '1' the assumption would be that I have read all the books in my library and then some"

I would assume that's what's meant but that's not what's being said.

"1) I've read more books than you've seen in my library."

You could have 1000 books in your library, but I have only seen 99 of them. If you only read 10% of the books in your library, #1 would still be a true statement. In fact, if you read 100 books, none of which were in your library, it would still be true.

Re: more books than you've seen

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:07 am
by navi
Thank you very much, Trolley,

I have to admit that I had not thought of that possibility! You are quite right. My logic was defective!

Do you agree with what I say about '2'?

2) I've read more books than you own in your library.

I think '2' basically means the number of books I have read is greater than the number of books in your library.
We have three possibilities:

a) I have read all the books you own in your library and then some.
b) There is overlap between the books I have read and the books you own in your library
c) There is no overlap at all.

Is that correct?

Gratefully,
Navi.

Re: more books than you've seen

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:17 pm
by tony h
My uncle bought a country which had a ballroom and a library. The library seemed rather desolate as he didn't read much just a few books on equine health and a readers' digest. So when I found myself in between places he kindly offered his library for the storage of my books.

It strikes me, although somewhat improbable, that someone could easily mean 2 to differentiate between my books and the books my uncle owned.

It also reminds me of a time when my sister brought home a friend who looked in awe at the books lining the hall and the kitchen and declared that there were more books in our kitchen than in his public library.

Re: more books than you've seen

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:52 pm
by BonnieL
tony h wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:17 pm
It also reminds me of a time when my sister brought home a friend who looked in awe at the books lining the hall and the kitchen and declared that there were more books in our kitchen than in his public library.
We've had a similar response to our books. The living room & entry way have built-in bookcases that hold maybe 500 books. We have more in our bedrooms, as well as boxes of books we won't read any time soon but can't bear to get rid of. We thought when we got married we would cut down on books because of getting rid of duplicates - the only duplicate was the Complete Shakespeare. :lol:

It seems that every time we do manage to get rid of a book, 5 more take its place. :)

Re: more books than you've seen

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:58 pm
by trolley
navi wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:07 am

do you agree with what I say about '2'?
2) I've read more books than you own in your library.
I think '2' basically means the number of books I have read is greater than the number of books in your library.
We have three possibilities:

a) I have read all the books you own in your library and then some.
b) There is overlap between the books I have read and the books you own in your library
c) There is no overlap at all.

Is that correct?
I guess a, b, and c are all possibilities but they wouldn't have occurred to me unless you offered them up. I don't get any indication from statement 2 that the books I have read have any relation to the books in your library...except by volume. If someone claimed to have visited more countries than I have, I wouldn't make the assumption that they have been to every country that I have (plus a few more). I would make the assumption that if that is what they really meant, that is what they would have really said. Likewise, I am would take your statement at face value: I have read more books than you own. Which books those were and whether or not you own some of those same titles doesn't even enter the situation...unless you add it.

Re: more books than you've seen

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:19 am
by tony h
trolley wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:58 pm
navi wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:07 am

do you agree with what I say about '2'?
2) I've read more books than you own in your library.
I think '2' basically means the number of books I have read is greater than the number of books in your library.
We have three possibilities:

a) I have read all the books you own in your library and then some.
b) There is overlap between the books I have read and the books you own in your library
c) There is no overlap at all.

Is that correct?
I guess a, b, and c are all possibilities but they wouldn't have occurred to me unless you offered them up. I don't get any indication from statement 2 that the books I have read have any relation to the books in your library...except by volume. If someone claimed to have visited more countries than I have, I wouldn't make the assumption that they have been to every country that I have (plus a few more). I would make the assumption that if that is what they really meant, that is what they would have really said. Likewise, I am would take your statement at face value: I have read more books than you own. Which books those were and whether or not you own some of those same titles doesn't even enter the situation...unless you add it.
You are quite right. The idea that someone would seek to cross check the books they have read with the one in the library is quite bizarre. Rather like the statement "I have had more lovers/great ideas/successful cases than you have had hot dinners" is not to be taken literally.