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How Australian is ruining the English language

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:13 pm
by Phil White
Came across this today

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/201504 ... nd-ratbags

Seriously, I have to say that I was entirely unaware of the origins of many of the examples, many of which I remember from my childhood (shortly after the Europeans first discovered Australia).

But you do have to love 'em...

Re: How Australian is ruining the English language

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:35 pm
by Bobinwales
Margaret and I spent six weeks in Australia. Including, f you remember, a very pleasant week with WoZ and Rhonda. Apart from "Macca", which had to be explained (McDonald's), we didn't have too much trouble. I had heard of an Esky beforehand, but Margaret hadn't, and there were a couple of other words that one or the other of us had come across before, so it was pretty easy to cope. I couldn't get used to "thongs". To an Aussie THESE are thongs. To a Brit, THESE are!

One thing that did amuse me was that in the six weeks, we only met one Sheila. And she was a visitor from Cornwall who is as Welsh as me and was brought up about six or seven miles further up the valley from where we live.

Re: How Australian is ruining the English language

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:52 am
by Wizard of Oz
.. hey Phil we finally got a jumper .. I often think that one of the keys to Aussie slang is not necessarily the word per se, eg mate, but the very special meanings Aussies attach to a word .. no, mate is not Aussie by birth but growing up Downunder it has travelled a long way .. bloody, and in particular bastard, are other examples .. [bastard[/i] is a word well left alone unless you know what you are saying because it can make you the best of mates but equally give you a ride to hospital in an ambo ..

.. they mention our penchant for adding /ee, ie, y/ or /o/ to the end of words .. no linguist thus far has been able to work out the rule for adding which ending but an Aussie will know which is correct .. for instance in sport a Bowling Club becomes a Bowlo but a Rugby League club becomes a Leaguie .. in trades a bricklayer becomes a brickie, a carpenter becomes a chippie, but an electrician can be a lecco or a leccie whereas a milkman becomes a milko .. you do of course go to the picies to watch a doco .. or to the bottlo to get a slab of tinnies or a bottle of Bundie .. it just goes on and on ..

.. linguists have looked at all manner of long/short/velar/fricative/forward/nasal pre post ideas .. there just doesn't seem to be a rule ..

WoZ who'll seeyalayta

Re: How Australian is ruining the English language

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:28 am
by Erik_Kowal
Wizard of Oz wrote: .. there just doesn't seem to be a rule ..
Okie-doko...

Re: How Australian is ruining the English language

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:32 am
by Phil White
A bit like Aussie rules football, then, where there also don't appear to be any rules.

Re: How Australian is ruining the English language

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:03 pm
by Erik_Kowal
Phil White wrote:A bit like Aussie rules football, then, where there also don't appear to be any rules.
Phil, surely you can't scorn an entire game on the basis of the antics recently confessed to by a single deranged Aussie referee...?

Re: How Australian is ruining the English language

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:01 pm
by Phil White
As someone who got a camp hairdresser to record your answering machine message, you are biased.

And, darling, it's an umpire, not a referee...

Re: How Australian is ruining the English language

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:35 am
by Wizard of Oz
.. Phil you wouldn't be casting nasturtiums on our national game would you ?? .. aerial ping-pong .. cross-country ballet .. a game that only an Aussie could love .. and there are rules, they are just very simple, few and far between and casually applied .. as suits the Aussie disdain for authority ..

WoZ in the back pocket

Re: How Australian is ruining the English language

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:37 pm
by tony h
Phil White wrote:A bit like Aussie rules football, then, where there also don't appear to be any rules.
What would you expect from a country "born" from people with scant regard for rules :) Quick, run away !

Re: How Australian is ruining the English language

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 11:29 pm
by Edwin F Ashworth
The Australian interrobang must be interesting. Not to mention uninverted commas.