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Post by Quoc » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:18 am

Hi,

Are these sentences correct? If not, please correct these sentences.

1.In how much time will you arrive to Paris?

2.In how many days will you arrive to Paris?


Thanks

Quoc
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Post by dalehileman » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:46 pm

1. How long before you arrive in (or reach) Paris?
At what time will you arrive in Paris?

2. How many days before you arrive in Paris?
In how many days will you reach Paris?
How many days before you reach Paris?
How many days until you arrive in Paris?

But you would ask

What time will you arrive at the airport
Don't ask me why
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Post by Erik_Kowal » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:52 pm

On thinking about it, the rule seems to be that you arrive in a named city or town, but that you arrive at any other kind of location or destination (e.g. a store, a station, your friend's house, a conclusion, a decision, the point of no return).

However, you can also arrive somewhere in a particular emotional condition (a good mood, a foul temper, a state of heightened expectation).
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Post by Quoc » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:19 am

Hi,

Are these senetnces correct?

1. In how many days will you arrive in Paris?

2. In how much time will you arrive in Paris?

If (1) is incorrect, why?
If (2) is incorrect, why?

Thanks
Quoc
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Post by dalehileman » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:20 am

Erik, well put
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Post by Quoc » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:06 am

Hi all,

1. In how many days will you arrive in Paris?

2. In how much time will you arrive in Paris?

If (1) is incorrect, why?
If (2) is incorrect, why?

Quoc
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Post by dalehileman » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:27 am

They're ok but awkward. We'd ask, "When will you arrive in Paris?"

Otherwise, "How many days before..." or "How long before..." are closer to idiomatic though practically nobody would use the former
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Post by Quoc » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:17 pm

Hi,

Today: Tuesday
Tomorrow : Wednesday
In 2 days: Thursday
In 3 days: Friday

My friends will go to Paris on Friday.

So if I ask:

"When will you go to Paris?" Or "How many days before..." or "How long before..." ?

He will answer me: Friday.

But if I want the answer is: In 3 days.

I have to ask:

1.In how much time will you go to Paris?

2.In how many days will you go to Paris?

My questions are:

1/ Is what I say above right?

2/ Are the sentences (1) and (2) correct? If not, please correct the wrong sentence and tell me why that sentence is wrong.

Thanks
Quoc
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Post by Erik_Kowal » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:28 pm

The format of your sentences is understandable, but it is not very idiomatic.

If I were asking my friends your question, I would ask "How many days before you go to Paris?"

If I wanted them to force them to be absolutely precise in their answer, I could ask "How many days from today [or from now] before you go to Paris?"

If I knew that their journey to Paris was going to take more than one day and was focusing on their day of arrival rather than their day of departure, I would ask "How many days before you arrive in Paris?"

Similarly, if I was mostly interested in knowing their day of departure, I would ask "How many days before you leave for Paris?"
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Post by hsargent » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:23 pm

It is more interesting to consider the question since Vietnam is on the other side of the international date line.

You usually don't ask "how long" and specify the units ... hours, days.

I would ask when do you leave for Paris and when will you arrive?

Again, your sentences are correct and understandable but unusually phrased.
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Post by Quoc » Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:28 pm

Hi,

In short:

1/ If I want to have the answer as follows:

I'll go to Paris in 3 days.

How amny ways can I ask? Please list these all ways.

2/ If I want to have the answer as follows:

I'll arrive in Paris in 3 days.

How amny ways can I ask? Please list these all ways.

Thanks
Quoc
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Post by russcable » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:49 pm

Quoc wrote: In short: ... How many ways can I ask? Please list these all ways.
In short...
1) What's up?
2) What's going on?
3) What are you doing this weekend?
4) Have you ever been to France?
5) ...
1,983,212) Does the Eiffel Tower ever cross your mind?
...
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Post by dalehileman » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:34 pm

1/ If I want to have the answer as follows:
I'll go to Paris in 3 days.
How amny ways can I ask? Please list these all ways


It would appear that Erik has answered your question. Stretching it a bit, however:

How many days before you leave...
In how many days will you leave...
In how many days do you plan to leave...
In how many days are you planning to leave...
How many days before you plan to leave...
In how many days will you be leaving...
You are planning to leave in how many days...

Please specify the elapsed time expressed in the number of consecutive days preceding and including the one in which you plan on leaving...expect to leave...want to depart...anticipate leaving...think you'll go...

It is futile to ask "In how many ways..." because there are dozens if not scores of versions one might come up with if he found the project interesting and had time on his hands. However, given a specific reply, there are usu very few common idiomatic ways in which the question is likely to be phrased
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Post by Edwin Ashworth » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:40 pm

Erik's first post above skilfully leaves out "arriving in (a village, hamlet...)", where one would usually use the preposition 'at'. Perhaps it's the thought that a city has size, whilst a hamlet is little more than a point on the map.
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Post by gdwdwrkr » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:20 am

Who moved Vietnam?
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