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Post by Archived Topic » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:27 pm

I have had no luck finding the word Hognac in any publication. It may be spelled differently, hogniac, honiac, pronounced "hOn yak" or "hOn E yak". The slang term has always meant "dim witted screw-up" to my friends and I. Has anyone any information on this word?
Greg Bowles / San Francisco,CA
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Post by Archived Reply » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:41 pm

Is it because I used I instead of me? My friends and I always understood it to mean ............(better)

Or have I stumped the panel? :)

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Post by Archived Reply » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:56 pm

It's not english, probably eastern european slang.
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Post by Archived Reply » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:10 pm

Maybe Yiddish?
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Post by Archived Reply » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:25 pm

If you go to the archives and use the Ctrl-F search under "hon," you will find Discussion #747 which has the information you desire.

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Post by Archived Reply » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:39 pm

Thank you very much. You were a great help.
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Post by Archived Reply » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:53 pm

Greg, If you’re still there. After Leif’s suggestion, I was able to locate the expression in two slang dictionaries and will give those definitions to compliment what the standard dictionaries(OED and Webster’s had to say). Should have caught this one since my father (born in the U.S.) as well as his six sisters and my grandparents who were born in Hungary all speak the language, although, unfortunately, I don’t.
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Cassell’s Dictionary of Slang

HONYOCK/HONYOCKER noun [20th century] (U.S.) 1) rustic, peasant. 2) an ignorant, inexperienced or unsophisticated person. [variation on ‘hunyak]

HUNYAK noun 1) [20th century] an immigrant from central or eastern Europe, e.g. a Hungarian or Pole (cf. ‘bohunk’; ‘hunk’; ‘hunky’). 2) [20th century] an ignorant, inexperienced or unsophisticated person, a low-class person (cf. ‘honyock’). 3) [1920s and still in use] (U.S.) a yokel, country man or lout [? HUN(garian) + (Pol)ACK]
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The only thing that ‘Random House Historical Dictionary of Slang’ adds is that it is a Midwestern U.S. expression and that it is said of immigrants from Central or Southern Europe, usually a Magyar or Slavic—also used attributively—used contemptuously.<1907-1910 In ‘Reports of Immigration Comm.’ by Dillingham, p.255: “Magyar...Hungarian, Hun, or Hunyak in popular language.”>
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