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Post by Archived Topic » Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:49 am

I'm told this is an oldie, but I cant find it.
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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:03 am

Al, In Rudyard Kipling’s ‘The Betrothed (“You must choose between me and your cigar.” (Breach of Promise case, circa 1885), When a husband receives an ultimatum from his wife Maggie, and is considering the choice between her and a good Cuban stout, he muses "And a woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke."

In one of his lighter moments Freud remarked that “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”

I believe your subtle quote is an oldie and that I heard it many years ago. I’m not certain that you have the words exactly right, but it doesn’t make much difference because I couldn’t find anything on it anyway. However, for what it’s worth, perhaps your phrase was inspired by and is a play on the words of the above quotes.
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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:17 am

I thought Freud used matches.
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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:32 am

.. of course a recent US President attempted to give this saying a whole new focus ..
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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:46 am

Only if his words were "A cigar is just a cigar, but a woman gives a suck".
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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:01 am

Erik, But he swears “I never had a cigar with that women!”

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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:15 am

However, he did have a woman with that cigar. The distinction between the two is not perceptible as far as I am concerned.
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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:29 am

Erik, I agree – It would be splitting hairs!

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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:44 am

I would refer to it as 'parting hairs', not 'splitting hairs'.
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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:58 am

Erik, Your right again. And parting is not such sweet sorrow!


Ken – November 7, 2003

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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:13 am

Are you sure that that's what the Bard said about the 'beard'?
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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:27 am

No, Maybe that one was ‘To sleep perchance to dream, ay, there’s the rub!’

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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:41 am

Yes, I think you may have uncovered the nub!
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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:56 am

So let’s rephrase the words of our former fearless leader, “I did not have sex with that nub, but I bear no responsibility for actions of that cigar!”

Ken – November 7, 2003

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Post by Archived Reply » Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:10 am

He would probably then want a Havana. Anna Freud, possibly, had she still been alive.
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