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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:01 pm

America is not only great because you can immigrate there, you are also free to emmigrate any time you like.

Why waste your time living in a place that you don't like when you are free to go live in the paradise of your choice?

Take it from someone who lived in a socialist country. Socialism and Communism suck.
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:15 pm

Tell us, what's the difference between socialism and communism?
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:29 pm

Socialism:1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.

There are several types of socialism such as guild, national, state, and utopian. It is the stepping stone between capitalism to communism.


Communism: 1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R. b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d : communist systems collectively.



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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:44 pm

Which category is Sweden?
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:27 pm

Sweden is a monarchy in which the office of Head of State is held by a King or Queen. The title is inherited by the eldest child of the incumbent Head of State.

Sweden's Head of State is the nation's supreme representative but has no political powers. He or she is regularly informed of the "affairs and concerns of the realm" and chairs the Advisory Council on Foreign Affairs.

Sweden has three democratically elected levels of government: the Riksdag (Swedish parliament) at the national level, the county councils at the regional level and the municipalities at the local level. They each have different duties and areas of responsibilities. Elections are are held every four years and elections to all three levels take place on the same day.

The basic provisions defining the powers and tasks of government and the rights enjoyed by Swedish citizens are enshrined in the Constitution. The Local Government Act of 1992 defines the roles of county councils, municipalities and regions.

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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:41 pm

Your "stepping stone" theory is pure right wing trash,The idea of private property is not banned by socialism, Your definitions are mainly useful as examples of right wing
propaganda. The hoi polloi's idea of communism is "what's mine is yours and what's yours is yours". You have been brainwashed to believe what suits the wealthy.
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:56 pm

The last time I checked neither Rush Limbaugh, Carl Rove, nor any vast right wing conspiracy have anything to do with publishing Merriam-Webster's Dictionary which is where those definitions come from. I've also double checked with the Oxford English Dictionary to eliminate such a conspiracy theory and the definitions are accurate.

I've not been brainwashed. I just haven't limited my reading list to communist propaganda. I've read both "The Communist Manifesto" as well as "The Republic." by Plato, and I have studied history and examples of both, and I would live in a free Republic any day over any Socialist or communist nation.

I would suggest that goose-stepping morons such as yourself try reading books instead of burning and banning them.
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:10 pm

I speak from experience and not just from books. I have lived in Hungary and was forced to serve in the military, then escaped to Canada, and now live in the United States of America. From the voice of experience capitalism is far better than the opression of communism.

The government that can give you everything can also take it all away. Under communism only the government elites and their sycophants and loyalists can prosper financially, but still are not free to speak their mind or read what they want.

In the United States of America under capitalism, if you are rewarded for your labor. I can enjoy prosperity beyond what I ever could have even hoped to dream for under communism. I can disagree with the government without fear of imprissonment. I can read any book without fear of imprissonment.

You can not tell me I am brainwashed and do not know what I am talking about because I have experienced both firsthand.
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:25 pm

Do you think any american publisher could have a dictionary accepted in american educational institutions that didn't give those obsolete and right wing definitions of socialism? Socialism is defined differently in europe, where the grip of corporate whores and religious fundamentalists does not determine national policy. The branch of whoredom known as economics ( my apologies to ladies of the evening)is only capable of showing which side their bread is buttered on.
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:39 pm

So it is sort of like it depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is? Contrary to what the humanists would have everyone believe there are absolute truths that exist.

Which corporations are determining their national policy? As far as religious fundamentalists determining national policy, I believe the Americans are addressing that by preventing any more religious fundamentalists from killing innocent women and children, and keeping the religious fundamentalists from flying planes into skyscrapers. Also they put to rest the doctor who was killing abortion doctors in the name of God. So I don't see the argument for religious fundamentalists controlling the government.
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:53 pm

Absolutely yes. The government doesn't ban books in the United States, not to mention that the government educational institutions, known in America as "public schools" are dominated by the left anyway, the kids are more likely to walk away brainwashed for socialism rather than against it.

As far as religious fundamentalists determining national policy, the Americans are dealing with these religious fundamentalists so they will not fly planes into skyscrapers anymore, and so they will quit strapping themselves with explosives and walking into child care centers.
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:08 pm

"Dominated by the left" typical right wing bullshit.Education is totally establishmentarian, and a teacher that advocated socialism would quickly be punished.

Native American fundamentalists are "right to life" zealots who murder doctors and claim God tells them what sexual behavior is moral.Their leader, shrub, claims that Jesus is his advisor. Where did Jesus OK LYING?
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:22 pm

I don not know where you are from, but you have obviously never been to America. Teachers are not punished for advocating any kind of political philosophy.

The 1 person to which you refer who murdered an abortion doctor, whom you are claiming controls national policy, was put to death by lethal injection. I'm sure if guys like that controlled national policy they would be granted a pardon would they not?

No offense but you truly are ignorant of life in America.
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:37 pm

And you obviously were rejected by headstart, and never exposed to real education of any kind.I note you make no comment about shrub's lies, distortions, and draft dodging. You probably voted for the low life, proving your head is up your ass.
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Post by Archived Reply » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:51 pm

I've gone quite a ways beyond Head Start. I've been exposed to plenty of real education as well as travelled the world, and studying abroad.

You don't even know the President is George W. Bush and not shrub. The guy joined the National Guard, which got him out of Vietnam. Bill Clinton and many other people who are now politicians did the same thing. I don't condone it. He did lie when he said Ted Kennedy is a great American. I don't agree with many of his policies, but I don't harbor the bitter hatred for the guy that you espouse.

I enjoy forthright debate that deals in facts, but you are a demagogue and religious fundamentalist of the left who will not even listen to another point of view. You are imediately think that because someone has a different point of view that they are stupid and you result to sophomoric name calling. Get over yourself.

George Bush is wrong about many things and I can say that because I am not a demagogue. Truth is that neither the left nor the right get things correct 100% of the time and fair-minded, clear-thinking people know this.
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